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of it anyways. number one, ayman al zawahiri, the long-time number two to osama bin laden, communicating with an organization that's considered even more danger, nasir al wahsyshi. he's experimented with exploding clothes, clothes impregnanted with explosives, not to hide bombs but clothes that are bombs. but this isn't about an exploding shirt. this is said to be, according to sources that talked to nbc news, something big, that the head of al qaeda ordered to do something at the end of ramadan and that's now. when they talked about that, larry, the u.s. government listened and that's what kicked off the biggest alert since 9/11. >> steve handelsman over the weekend, congressman peter king, very knowledgeable guy, he said they picked up specific dates, specific dates. do we know anything about that? >> reporter: what we're told, larry, is that the conversation, and it may have just been one, it's such big guys and they so avoid communicating and if there was just one conversation it's because of they communicated and because of who they were. and the communication we're told specified t
al qaeda, we decimated the top leadership and we killed osama bin laden and the main number two or number three leaders. i don't think anything he said was inaccurate. the reality is al qaeda has been reconstituted in different satellite organizations across the region. so we have al qaeda in libya, for example. al qaeda in the sudan, for example. so it's not just the old al qaeda in afghanistan or iraq. al qaeda is taking different forms and shapes and that's the reality that the state department -- >> repeat my question. he said we decimated al qaeda, okay? he said they were not the threat that they once were, however you wish to paraphrase it. our clips were pretty specific. have they now, thankfully, changed their position about the al qaeda threat? is that what you hear about this announcement? >> no. this is an administration that's been ever vigilant in fighting the threat since they came in office. they were focused about getting osama bin laden from the beginning and they've been executing drone strikes at a rate faster than the bush administration and by the way, that'
and supporting terrorism. they killed osama bin laden, but they're with al qaeda in terms of egypt, which is just bizarre. >> reporter: it doesn't really make any sense when you think that the administration acquiesced in the removal of morsi, but on the other hand, the united states doesn't want the egyptian military to absolutely crush dissent because that's a prescription for long civil war that would be very destabilizing and call into question the future ability of egypt to maintain its obligations with israel and everything. >> yep. hotspots all over the place over there. john harwood, thank you. see you later. >> reporter: you bet. >>> we're going to get in a quick break here. when we return, why one insider says forget about larry summers and janet yellen because tim geithner could be the man to follow ben bernanke. >>> first as we head to break, let's check on the national weather forecast with the weather channel's alex wallace. alex. >> good morning to you. it's going to be a hot one across the upper midwest. a lot of areas thought we were done with summer. not the case. extensive heat
into a prolonged mi military conflict, and they point out that in 1998, afghanistan failed to kill osama bin laden stirred a hornet's nest, and the bombing in kosovo lasted 198 days. in that environment, what should we do? >> and the stocks momentarily took a dip, and didn't look back, and really a great year despite april, may, involvement in that conflict. and you can look back to many of them that the stock market barely noticed in other events much larger ones such as world war ii or the gulf war, it was a definitive strike of the u.s. that turned the market sentiment around. it is not a big issue for it, market, and it started on domestic concerns and not foreign ones. we have the debt ceiling ahead of us and fed tapering sometimes soon, and those are the issues to be resolved and not the situation in syria. >> all right. the price of oil, and you may be right, and what about the price of oil which is clearly higher and some projections that it could go far higher. >> well, i do agree with jeff, simon, of the lrnlg larger issues, and a confluence of things that are driving the prices down. we
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